I was looking around the UU blogsphere and came across Arbitrary Mark’s post with her thoughts on this wanting of a reformation in liberal theology. I swear I only understood about a third of what she was saying, and when I went to go see what the original post was (which Philocrites linked to) I had no bloody idea what I was doing and felt ashamed and silly for being somewhere I was obviously too stupid to be at.
So, here comes the question I face about once every other week – Am I too stupid to be a Unitarian Universalist?
Now, don’t get me wrong, I’ve got smart-people credentials. A killer GRE score, went to a top rate university (Go Yellow Jackets!) and I’m somewhat of a teacher for a living (better known as a tutor for rich kids wanting to get into college.) And I’m the only one who can teach Physics and/or Calculus at my center. So I’ve got my Intellectual street cred.
But I feel extremely stupid whenever I look outside my own little UU World, and sometimes feel stupid even there. For example,
- -There have been sermons that should have had a little handy dandy citation sheet with explanations, because I was lost over in bumblefuck.
- -When I try to read other’s blog posts over what I’m sure are interesting, relevant topics to Unitarian Universalism, I get lost in a sea of big words that I’m sure have a meaning and citations that reference scholarly works which although I assume exist I doubt I’ll ever have the chance of hearing about again, much less reading, and much, much less understanding. It comes off as gibberish and after a few attempts trying to understand I just give up.
- -I hear books that other Unitarians on blogs, my email lists, and people I know are reading and I think “Good lord. The last book I read was The Chamber by John Grisham [true story! I'm in the middle of it right now]. Am I just intellectually inferior and just too stupid to be a Unitarian. because I’m not well-read?
Maybe I’m just a roadie – desperately hanging on to the smart people to try and seem cooler than myself, or maybe most Unitarians are just stupid like me, or maybe I’m the only dumb one. But if I hadn’t already invested quite a bit in UUism over the past year, the hyper-intellectualism that seems to be abundant would easily turn me off. And it seems to be lurking behind every turn! Sunday School isn’t called Sunday School – its Religious Education, and it’s not a class, it’s a study group or seminar. We don’t call our minister “Reverend Keyes” we call him “Dr. Keyes.”
I know that we Unitarians are proud of our per capita intellectual ability, and that part of our faith is questioning everything and finding our own way. But that’s the kicker – finding our own way, not having a discussion where we cite what 20 other people think with little regard for our own thoughts and experiences.
Now, if I constantly feel intellectually inferior, then I’m sure visitors do all the time. Maybe this is why we’re having problems growing as a denomination, not the lack of a coherent liberal theology. We come off as cold, introverted hyper-intellectuals who would rather talk about Goethe and Nietzsche than minister to people and visit them in the hospital when they’re sick.
Sounds like a rockin’ place to be.






18 responses so far ↓
A story in need of a plot at Making Chutney // September 20, 2006 at 1:30 am |
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danielle // September 20, 2006 at 8:29 am |
Short answer – no, you are not too stupid to be a uu. Long answer – you’re not stupid at all, but we’re all stupid/smart in lots of ways. Genau?
Have you ever heard of Gardener’s theory of multiple intelligences? Check it out.
Often, I feel just as you do.
danielle // September 20, 2006 at 8:42 am |
Um, let me add the disclaimer.
Often, I feel just as you do, except without all the wicked calculus and physics knowledge.
And yes, I think hyper-intellectualism can possibly lead to isolation. Wanna meet my brother?
ck // September 20, 2006 at 8:55 am |
I’m truly sorry if my post made you feel dumb. I knew writing it that it wouldn’t make sense to everyone (especially not those who hadn’t recently read the work I as reading–and weren’t in my lil head!). Since I’m hoping to go on to do more education in religion & philosophy, a lot of my blog is aimed at that audience.
However, if my writing is losing folks, I need to see if I can say things in a more accessible way.
The point you raise about sermons, though, I can echo. I prefer sermons that speak to the head AND the heart at the same time, and find few that do that well. When it comes to personal interaction, you can bet that I’m not pulling out Nietzsche or Goethe–but I’m listening first, then talking (if asked) about my experience.
I can’t speak for everyone else, but my blog is intended to be both a place to get feedback from a wide variety of people as well as to launch ideas. So there are times when it won’t be readily accessible. Please, though, don’t hesitate to leave a comment–I am more than willing to revise a post or add onto it. I’m sure that goes for Philocrites and the others as well!
(And by the way, if you were to write here about Calc or Physics, I’d be lost…!)
kinsi // September 20, 2006 at 11:23 am |
ck – I hope you didn’t take my post as any sort of attack on yours. It was sort of the straw that broke the camels back. I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately after a post about classism at my church after a post on a discussion group for our congregants. I wrote in there how I’m not well read enough to be a UU, and it devolved from there.
Chutney and I had a long chat last nite about all of this. He made his point (without using big words thankfully) about how even the, uh, “seminary nerds” as he called them need a place to go.
I just worry that this is the face we present to people trying to search our UUism and it would turn off a fair amount of people in my book.
I hope that made sense. I just woke up
Trish Ryan // September 20, 2006 at 1:03 pm |
Wow – what a great and honest post! I’ve had similar thoughts so many times in the UU world. I alternated between “Am I too stupid?” and “Am I a terrible person because I really don’t care about these obscure conversations?”
The bottom line for me was that I wanted a place to explore faith AND see lives tangibly changed for the better because of it. For some folks, intellectual discourse is the ticket, but I wasn’t one of those folks. Thanks for your candor.
4alarm // September 20, 2006 at 2:02 pm |
you have to remember that there are also a bunch of us who call him david.
i think you hit the nail on the head, though, that one of the most off-putting things for newcomers is the circle jerk of intellectualism that gets so many UUs off. i agree with chutney that there should be a place for seminary nerds and every other sort of nerd. and it’s not to say that these topics are inappropriate for services, it’s just that services, like the newspaper, must be targeted at an 8th grade reading level. not that the people who come to UU churches are stupid, it’s just that not everyone spent 3 years learning about 11th century mystics. UUs aren’t very good at playing to their audiences. some don’t seem to be interested in — or maybe capable of — explaining things to other humans who don’t already know what they’re talking about.
that’s the thing that makes me most irritated. when i really would like to understand something, and i just don’t have the background knowledge to do so because of the communication style. you’re right, kinsi, that it makes a person feel stupid, no matter how educated or accomplished they are.
the equivalent would be you getting up and talking about vector calculus from the pulpit. i somehow doubt that anyone would think that is a good idea.
that being said, i think that the blogosphere, small groups, RE classes, coffee hour, etc. are great places for the circle jerk. it’s just really not acceptable for it to infiltrate sessions with a wider audience. it’s ineffective and exclusionary.
UUpdater // September 20, 2006 at 2:10 pm |
I think the classism point is a good observation. A minister at my old congregation made a similar observation. During her sabbatical she attended other churches and one thing she noticed was that at some you would feel comfortable even if you didn’t know how to read. No order of service, no hymnal, and lots of smiling helpful faces. The sermon was not a lecture either.
ck // September 20, 2006 at 4:37 pm |
Not taken that way at all, kinsi. I am constantly correcting myself for being too “in my head”, so I take every moment like this as a teaching lesson.
I agree with you, though, about the intellectualism and classism in the pulpit and the service. Actually, perhaps ironically, that’s some of what these abstract discussions of narrative are about.
Do we have a story to tell that is intriguing and motivating and can be told from the pulpit and grabs newcomers and challenges older UUs alike? Is it one that can be reflected on in a nerd-like way, but also one that is deep enough to push us in another areas.
So, to your post, I say, “amen.”
kim // September 29, 2006 at 2:36 am |
We come off as cold, introverted hyper-intellectuals who would rather talk about Goethe and Nietzsche than minister to people and visit them in the hospital when they’re sick.
And I gave up on Mensa because THEY seemed like “cold, Hyper-intellectuals…”, etc. and by contrast, UUs seemed warm and empathetic!
http://hometown.aol.com/xyi111 // December 8, 2006 at 5:49 am |
Very interesting website. Keep up the outstanding work and thank you…-pharma
Mama G // January 21, 2007 at 2:07 am |
Hey, Kinsi, I know this is way after you originally posted this particular entry, but I stumbled upon this as part of the 2007 UU Blog awards. I was just checking out the link and I was *really* moved by what you said. I myself could have written the EXACT SAME THING. Wow. I am a UU, but I also feel very stupid a lot of the time. It is very overwhelming. When I was a kid, I was one of the smartest kids around. But these UU’s blow me out of the water. Whew!
However, I know that God loves me no matter what so it is okay that I’m not perfect. Praise be to those who are so gifted. I’m an old time universalist. God loves us all. Even those who can’t do subject-verb agreement correctly and haven’t graduated high school. LOL
Thank you for your post.
Frances Cott // January 29, 2007 at 9:39 pm |
Well.\, if we do not reverse global warming, we will have no place to be a UU, and that is the epitomme of an intellectual statement.
Z // March 5, 2007 at 3:42 pm |
I’m a little late to be chiming in here, but I just found this moping around the UU blogosphere.
I am going to try to explain my experience with this UU intellectualism the best I can without sounding like I am attacking anyone.
I found the intellectualism at my congregation to be somewhat of a competition of sorts, which I find rather strange, to be honest. This does not include our minister and a few choice others, but for the most part I found the UUs at my local congregation to be just as closed minded as everyone else. They have reached their conclusions and that’s it. There is no room for any discussion; what they think is true is the absolute truth.
For one example, I tried to begin a conversation about the possibility of world peace. My friend simply said that there will never be world peace, ever. He has concluded that there will be no world peace in our or any future lifetime. And that was that. Thus, there was no reason to discuss it.
The same friend made the claim that there is either complete order or there is complete chaos. Human beings have to have rules imposed on them to maintain order or there is nothing but complete chaos. I could not believe that I was speaking to a UU proclaiming open-mindedness, but he was.
To be honest, I don’t care what people believe, but I do have a problem with hermetically sealed minds with no room for other ideas, especially when they claim to be open-minded. With the few open minds, I find the interaction rewarding.
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Stephen // July 12, 2007 at 8:41 pm |
What attracts me to UUs is precisely that they think about religion – as opposed to those who “just know” all the answers and that everyone else is going to hell.
Religion needs more thinkers (intellectuals) not less – it’s the unthinking fanatics that have done all the harm to religion. Anecdotally, I’ve found UUs to be warm, tolerant people.
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